I've been practing faceups on my Ttory head. I've been using watercolor pencils and pastels, coating with Testors, and removing the faceups with rubbing alcohol. Just today I was removing the second faceup I'd done with alcohol when I noticed these weird, whiteish crusty spots on the forehead. I used more rubbing alcohol, washed with soap and water, but it wouldn't come off! I've never left the alcohol on -- as soon as I clean a spot, I rinse it off. I've noticed that there are the same spots around the nose and eyes. :cry:
It may be some of the Testor's left on the head. I've found that alcohol doesn't always get all of the coating off...I've soaked heads in alcohol before to try to get it all off. You may want to try a Mr Clean sponge on it to see if it can remove it.
Hm. Usually that "crusty stuff" is just Testors/MSC that hasn't come off properly. It shouldn't be long-term damage, at least not in my experience. I would recommend getting some Windsor & Newton Brush Cleaner, or 100% Acetone, and see if that gets more of it off. If you don't want to do that, for fear of damaging him/her, a few swipes with fine sandpaper should take those spots right off. :grin:
I use alcohol too when cleaning.. but I've found that it can't remove it properly.. so I use.. dun dun duuuuuuh... acetone to remove it. Alcohol makes the msc white and crusty, just like it does with Testors.
Yeah! The same thing happened to my Ttory head when I removed her face-up, only I used acetone. I gave her a second round with acetone and then rinsed her off with soap and water THOROUGHLY. All was well. Even now, I sometimes see the white around her nose and in her lips if I don't clean those areas properly after removing a faceup.
You can use thinner to get it off (Acrylic thinner)... ..and that's surprisingly water soluble ..so you can dilute it and make it weak as if you're scared of anything... Though the crusty stuff is just the testor residue ... you can polish it off with this stuff...and until its shiny then you'll know there's still more to get off... of course...rinse thoroughly with water and never let it sit on the resin soaked for more than a few seconds.
I wonder if anyone has tried to use 99% Alcohol as a solvent instead of Acetone? I am a makeup artist for humans(well, actors, sort of humans) and we use 99% to disolve all kinds of glues and pigments, also for painting and blending tatoos. It has the same strength as acetone and will disolve many of the same things but is not as caustic.
I've used it! It works great, though I've noticed that alcohol can have some strange reactions with certain doll heads. (I believe it's something that was sprayed on the surface and not the resin itself. But any sort of product that remains is easily buffed away with sandpaper.) I tend to stick with it and brush cleaner for removing faceups and cleaning body parts, since acetone can have adverse reactions to certain resins. Use without fear; it works! ~Kalmia
I believe in magic sponge and acetone free nailremover...Í can't get 99% alcohol in the Netherlands..i think it's illegal..=_=...i think they do it to preotect people adicted to alcohol..hehe.. ops: But magic sponge and acetone can't be used for humans *duh*..but for dolls it's great!
you can get 99% at professional beauty supplies in the US. If anyone is interested I'llpost the numbers. PS I don't mean Sally's. There are only a few in NY and CA but they ship all over.
I use 90% alcohol, and it works GREAT, with little to no damage to the resin in any way. You can find 90% alcohol at Walmart in the first aid section.
Hi everyone ^^ I want to redo my Chiwoo's face-up, but I'm still not sure/scared what to use..I know not to use acetone, I can't find non acetone nailremover and I can't find the winsor and newton brush cleaner +_+ what I do have is alcohol, the 70% alcohol they use in hospitals to clean skin/wounds? that stuff..is that okay to use? Will it work? Anyone who had their doll *shiver* melt away from it? O.O or any alternatives? I also have brush cleaner-but not winsor&newton..it says that it's 'powerful but gentle, can be used for acrylics and oil paint' now, the oil part has me worried..the guy in the art store said there was no acetone or alcohol in it..but still..kind of scary. thanks for any replies
I use rubbing alcohol, I like it more than acetone or nail polish remover actually. I've used it on CP resin and haven't noticed any problems. Alcohol takes a little more elbow grease to get all the paint/coating out of tiny creases than acetone does, but it's nothing that a good stiff toothbrush can't help with. ^_~
yay! okay ^^ so..I guess I'll try..I'm so scared I'll ruin him O.O he's staring at me with those big blue eyes, as if he wants to say 'uhm..mommy..please don't destroy my face? O.O;' ^^; @asato: I wish I could get that stuff! But I can't find it anywhere here..I did find another brush cleaner, but I'm kind of afraid to use it..
re: Raouken I agree with Asato--the Winsor and Newton Brush Cleaner/Restorer is really awesome. I found that out when I inadvertently took off my boy's faceup while using it to try to take off some splotched paint. @.@ It cleans very nicely, but it's also fairly expensive (so if you change faceups often, I can't reccommend it). Since you live in the Netherlands, I don't think they sell that brand there (although I think it's a British brand?), but a search on google revealed a few online stores that carry it. Most stores seem like they won't ship overseas, but some said they will... so if you're really interested, then I suggest buying online if you can't find it around you. (It's normally carried in the art section of any art supply or hobby stores. W&N is an awesome paint brand, but very costly.) I haven't tried rubbing alcohol yet on my Dreaming El, but I got away fairly well with using a magic eraser and then some good ol' fashioned mild detergent and water with a toothbrush and elbow grease. For really stubborn parts, I did use the brush cleaner.... I've seen some people use the rubbing alcohol without repurcussion though... I mean, you're not soaking your boy's head in it... For the record, the W&S Brush Cleaner is also meant to be used for acrylics and oils too, just like the one you have. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, but I did want to flash those online stores at you, at least.
Yes, it's safe. I tried to use it once, though, and it didn't work well for me at all. I was rubbing and rubbing with a cotton ball dipped in rubbing alcohol, and the face paint wouldn't come off. It's cheap and worth trying, though, because it's safer than using acetone.
I've used Rubbing Alcohol twice on my girl. The first time I had no problems, other than it taking a while to remove the faceup. When I washed and dried it, however, I ended up seeing.. little white flakes.. >.>; I'm still not quite sure if it was MSC, or if it was damage being caused by the rubbing alcohol, or what. After that I decided I wouldn't take anymore chances, and I ran out to get Windsor and Newton Brush Cleaner. It's pretty expensive, but $15 for a HUGE bottle isn't so bad, really, and it'll take everything off a lot faster and safer than rubbing alcohol or acetone. But that's just my experience.
Little white flakes are generally MSC that hasn't been taken all the way off and not resin damage (it has also happened when I used Brush Cleaner and didn't get all the MSC/Testor's off). Resin damage would be obvious discoloration of the resin itself or a softness in the resin. I've used 70% several times with no problems on CP/Luts resin.
I use it - it requires a bit of elbow grease to be effective, but it's quite gentle. Aaah, so THAT's what the white was - I had a feeling that was it.
how about rubbing alcohol that has a color?is that safe? i have yellow rubbing alcohol but im afraid it might stain.
I've never seen tinted rubbing alcohol before :\ Don't use anything tinted. Its best to buy the clear stuff.
Yep, it worked absolutely fine And it didnt need much scrubbing! Some of the blue face-up stained, but I used Cif to clean it right off!
i have 99% isopropyl, worked like a charm to remove testors and the faceup, though afterwards i had some issues with it not removing all of the testors on the head ( and theres even still some on the body, bleh ) so anywho, if you still have little blotches of coating, give it another go with the alchohal, and then give it a good wash with a Mr. Clean Magic Sponge, rise, repeat if nessicary
Speaking of rubbing alcohol... Where do you buy it (in Sweden)?? I've tried hardware stores and supermarkets without any luck.
Try the chemist, or the medicine part of the supermarket - the main use for rubbing alchohol is in sterylisation and cleaning of medical equipment and skin - it's what the doctor wipes your arm with before giving you an injection too ^_^
I got mine at Wal-Mart. I'm guessing you must have a similar sort of thing. They have the 90% cheaper than the 70% O.o I'm afraid to use acetone on an Obitsu head, so all I use is alchol...
I was using rubbing alchohol on my vynl girl to take off the lips and eye shadow of her face-up and the parts I sed it on turned this really pale color.. So either it's one of two things A. The alchohol is 'bleaching' her or B. The alchohol cleaned off all the dirt I couldn't clean off because I was afraid of pressing the Mr. Clean magic eraser too hard on her face. Does anyone know? Thanks so much in advance!
Alcohol turns the MSC coating white, that's what the paleness is. Then the MSCs flake off in big chunks. I had a great time shedding my boy when I was wiping his legs down with some ethanol *laughs* For me alcohol doesn't work all that well, though. I had to use W&N brush cleaner to really clean the flaking MSCs.
EDIT It seems you may be right, I looked again and her headcap is different from her face. *Sigh* the MSC is so oogey x.x But it doesn't seem like she was coated before she was painted, if she was, it was brushed on not sprayed on. Also the white-ness is on parts that didn't have any paint at all. (Again this has to do with the fact that she doesn't look spray coated at all,)
Probably just cleaner now in the lighter spots. Alcohol won't bleach vinyl. Give the whole head a good going-over and it should all be an even color again.
EDIT: Nevermind. I found out it wasn't rubbing alcohol (read below). New question, what IS rubbing alcohol called in Dutch? ____________ Right... well I'm in the middle of removing my doll's faceup - just I've run out of nail polish remover. I intend to go to the shops later to find some more - but the last time I went; I don't remember seeing any clear nail polish remover at all... I'd heard you could use rubbing alcohol and I've found something called 'Tendo's Gedenatureerde Alcohol 70%'. My dutch isn't the best and I wanted to double check with someone before I even try it. So here's the question, is this rubbing alcohol and is it safe to use on my doll?
Isopropyl alcohol. However, it is not easily as easily available in the Netherlands as in the surrounding countries, because of health hazards and because people can use it to make bombs. It can be hazardous not to your doll but to you. If you want it pure, best bet is to try your farmacist. Other wise, it is hidden in a lot of cosmetic products.
Hey all, bumping this up since I too have a question regarding alchohol as a cleaning solution. While I know it works fine on regular resin, I'm curious if there might be ill effects on using it on french resin? Or WS resin? I'm just nervous/paranoid since I'd like to work on giving one of my guys a face-up but he is both french resin and WS so I don't know if that would be more sensitive to rubbing alchohol than other types of resin.
Can't say if there's any issues around French resin, though I'd doubt it, but I've been using 91% to clean my white skin Dollshe with absolutely no difference from my two normal skin boys. And I like to sit the heads in the alcohol to soak when I'm cleaning off an old face up.
Hi all! I have a little Pipos that has a little dirty bump on his bottom and was wondering if 99% Isopropyl Alcohol is safe to use to clean it up? I know it can remove paint but luckily there's none in the area with the bump. I just want to make sure it won't yellow or do anything weird to the resin ^_^
it can actually help remove yellowing link but to be honest usualy a maic sponge on its own will remove marks
Woot! I know about the magic eraser, but I can't find mine right now (I think a friend filched it) but had the alcohol on hand, wow that's good news though about the yellowing! Thanks ^_^
the magic eraser is useful for smaller marks etc. The alcohol is great for some stains, faceups, etc. You can still use the alcohol since you have it on hand and it should work, but wipe the area afterwards with a wet towel so it doesn't leave that alcohol smell. Also if you do use it to wipe faceups make sure you wash the head a couple times. Alcohol really cleans away sealant so by washing and drying after some rubbing you can see which areas still need cleaning each time.
ok well i've been sitting here for 2 hours trying to get the paint off my boy's lips. well i got most of it off but theres still alot in the middle or crease of his lips and i've been sitting here trying to get it off with rubbing alcohol...and i will not come off. any idea on how to remove the rest of the paint on the lips?
I place the head inside of a container with remover, I leave it inside for some seconds, this will make the ink inside of the lips dissolve. With the head still inside of the receiving pass a clean brush between the lips.
if its stuck deep inside the cracks use a toothpick soaked in ur remover (blunt it by tapping it against a hard surface)
Tootbrushes work really well, if it's acrylic paint then I soak in some sort of oxy based laundry soaker overnight and then scrub in the morning. Watch the rest of the faceup though if you are planning to keep. There's stronger chemicals you can get but stick with an oxyclean type product first.
Looking for a safe way to remove faceups, and I stumbled across these - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....71481&_sacat=See-All-Categories&_fvi=1&_rdc=1 I know that Isoprophyl alcohol can be used for faceups, but I haven't heard of wipes being used. They are 70% concentration, but I don't know if wipes are ideal for the job. Would these be safe to use on dolls? Thanks in advance
I used isoprophyl alcohol to clean out the face-up, and all I can get my hands on here are about 75%, still it took me forever to take the face-up out, so I don't know if wipes gonna work effectively.
I have 100%, and that works about as well as acetone, hey. It's amazing stuff. All the others are diluted with water, so remember they can leave minerals and particles on the face after you have wiped. Give it a good wipedown with a clean soft cloth after, that will get rid of any residue from the water in the alcohols after.
I can't seem to buy acetone near my area. So is it possible to clean parts of the faceup with alchohol? << Also used to clean off markers on white boards~ If not alchohol, is there another safe and easy solution? : <
Yes, you can use isopropyl alcohol to remove a faceup. Not sure about just removing parts of a faceup. Windsor & Newton Brush Cleaner also comes highly recommended, moreso than Acetone which can have side effects on some resins. This thread: http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248590 would have more answers.
I did a face-up yesterday and had to remove the lower eyelashes a few times (it's the most difficult part IMO) and I used isopropyl alcohol and it worked very well. Dip a cotton-wool tip into the (at least 90%) alcohol and rub it over the part that you would like to clean. I added another layer MSC afterwards to be sure to have a good surface for the paint.
mods feel free to remove if there is a topic like this. I cant use toxics or acetones in my house due to my daughters skin sensitivity. Using alcohol derived from drinks I.E vodka, at 70% could it be an option to remove a face-up?
To be honest, it might work, but slowly. You can get 90% alcohol from the chemists, it's used for various things in medical situations and is pretty cheap and easy to find. I use it for faceup removal and find it's incredibly fast working