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BJD restringing, using ribbon threading techniques

    1. galatia9 submitted a new tutorial:

      BJD restringing, using ribbon threading techniques

      Read more about this tutorial here...
       
      #1 galatia9, Jul 20, 2008
      Last edited by a moderator: Aug 1, 2016
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      Now that I have shortened the elastic, it's time to put him back together. The leg elastic has to go back up in the neck. Loop a ribbon through the both loops of the elastic. You can see I have put the stringing tool down through the neck. Make sure it doesn't interfere with the arm elastic before you pull the ribbon through.

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      Grab both ends of the ribbon with the hook and pull the RIBBON only up through the neck. Make sure it goes NEXT to the arm elastic and not through it.

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      Remove the stringing tool from the ribbon, and pull the ribbon to draw the elastic up through the neck hole.

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      Put the s-hook through the elastic, and remove the ribbon.

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      Pull the elastic downward, so the s-hook sits in its groove properly.

      I know the ribbon seems like an extra step, BUT... when you get down to stringing the feet. the tension of the elastic will be much tighter. I prefer to NOT have a metal wire inside my dolls under tension. Instead, I pull on the ribbon, which won't damage the resin or the elastic.

      PLEASE NOTE: If you prefer to restring each of your doll's legs on its own piece of elastic instead of BOTH legs on one piece, you can estimate the length of the elastic the same way, but use a single loop of elastic. Also, you don't have to use the clamping technique (shown later), since each leg has its own tension. But you will have TWO knots in the torso instead of one.

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      Adjust the elastic so that both loops are the same length, and the knot is in the top part of the torso. Stretch both loops, and adjust them until they feel even.

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      Loop a ribbon through each leg elastic.

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      Use the same ribbon threading technique to draw the leg elastic down through the lower torso. Here, you can see I have finished one leg, and am ready to draw down the ribbons in the other leg.

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      Even out your leg elastic again.

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      Clamp off one leg elastic next to the thigh socket. This will keep the leg elastic tension even while you string the other leg first. If you are worried about scratching your doll's resin with the hemostats, line the edge of the socket with a bit of masking tape.

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      Use the ribbon threading technique through the thigh...

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      ... and the calf.
       
      #2 galatia9, Jul 20, 2008
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      From here, it is the reverse of what you did before. Clamp off the elastic at the ankle, so the tension is off. You can put on the s-hook again...

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      ...slide the ankle ball over the hook, and reattach the foot. Unclamp the hemostat. Now you have one leg restrung!!

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      Now... clamp your finished leg between the thigh ball and socket. This will hold the tension even again, just like before.

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      You will notice that when you release the other hemostat, the elastic will stay in place. ;D Now string your other leg!

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      All done!! And lookin' FINE, Akone!!

      IMPORTANT: Again, I am showing pictures of leg stringing because it is more difficult. But BE SURE to restring the doll's arms first, because the knot might not fit through the arm holes!! Arms are strung on the exact same principle you saw above. The elastic goes from wrist to wrist across the torso, not up into the neck. When restringing, even the elastic coming out of each arm hole, and clamp it off in one armpit. Restring the opposite arm, reclamp in the same armpit to keep the tension even, and restring the other arm.

      PS: This tutorial is for personal use only. I wrote it and photographed it for people who have requested assistance. If you wish to post this tutorial or parts of it somewhere else, please ask me first. Thanks so much!

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
      #3 galatia9, Jul 20, 2008
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    4. Here are a few pics to show how to string arms, and also how to use the drawstring puller.

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      Here is the upper torso and the lower torso. The leg elastic is looped around the s-hook in the head. The red thing is the drawstring puller, but you can use the long thin piece of wire bent into a hook. The wire doesn't need a handle, because you'll be pulling on the ribbon, not on the wire.

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      String your doll's arms first, because the knot might not fit through the arm holes. Put the ribbon through the elastic loop, and then reach into the shoulder with the paper clip. (At the bottom of the picture.) Draw the ribbon out from the inside of the torso, using the unbent paper clip, then pull on the ribbon to draw the elastic out the shoulder. (I like to leave the elastic knot in the center of the torso so that the knots aren't in the head getting in the way when I want to change eyes. But if you want to be able to shorten the elastic later without unstringing the whole doll, leave the knots in the head.) You can't see it here, but the drawstring puller is threaded through the other end of the elastic and keeps it from going inside the torso. When you have the elastic in the torso and out of each shoulder, position the elastic evenly out of both shoulders, with the knot in the center of the torso. (Sorry, I didn't show this!) Use the forceps to hold one arm's elastic at the shoulder socket, then string on the opposite arm and hook the hand onto the elastic. Then put the other arm on except for the hand, and pull on the ribbon as far as it will go. Release the forceps, pull on the ribbon until the elastic comes out at the wrist, and hook the other hand on the elastic. Two people come in handy here! (The upper arm has already had the ribbon and elastic drawn through it in this picture.)

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      Here's a closeup of the ribbon threading technique. You can see the paper clip reaching through the forearm to grab the ribbon.

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      Draw both ends of the ribbon through the limb...

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      and pull the elastic out. Pull on the ribbon, not the wire. You can use the forceps here to hold the far side of the elastic loop at the shoulder socket while you hook the near hand back onto the elastic. Draw the ribbon out of the elastic after the hand is back on. If you accidentally let go of the elastic, the ribbon will let you draw it back out.

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      Here, I use the drawstring puller to put on the lower torso. See how the ribbon is looped through the leg elastic? The puller goes up through the leg hole.

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      thread the ribbon through it...

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      and draw the ribbon through the lower torso.

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      Pull the ribbon to draw the elastic through. Again, keep the knots in the torso. This way, they won't be in the head getting in the way when you want to change the doll's eyes. Put the legs on the same way you put on the arms. The drawstring puller is most effective when stringing really LONG legs. IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE piece of elastic for both legs, please use the procedure shown above in the previous posts.

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
      #4 galatia9, Jul 20, 2008
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    5. Hints for glue sueding: Have a little bowl of ice water and a small towel handy while you hot glue. Have a ceramic plate or dish to set your glue gun on, so you don't have to set it on its little feet every time you put it down. In fact, I cut the little feet off mine, because they got in the way when I was trying to put glue in the thigh sockets.

      Before you hot glue: Take the two pieces you are working on (for example, upper torso and upper arm). Examine carefully how closely the upper arm fits into the shoulder socket. If it is a very snug, precise fit, just use glue around the hole in the socket. If it is a very loose fit, you can use more glue to fill more of the socket, wherever the ball and socket make contact. But I have found, especially with Luts/CP dolls, it is better to glue only near the hole, where the elastic pulls the pieces tightly together. When sueding the knees, especially Luts/CP: Look at the knee ball and socket, and see how they fit together. See how the socket has "wings" on either side that go snugly around the ball? Don't put glue in the wings, or the ball won't fit in the socket. Put glue only around the hole in the knee socket. These are the kinds of things you have to look for as you're glue sueding your doll. I check the fit of each ball and socket before gluing.

      When hot gluing: Apply a thin ribbon of glue about 1/3 of the way around the hole to start with. Quickly put down the gun, dunk your finger in ice water, and flatten down the hot glue. This will keep your finger from burning and will also cool the glue so it will harden quicker. I keep the towel on my knee so I can dry off any excess water. I do about 1/2 to 1/3 around the hole at a time, so that the glue doesn't cool off too much before I can flatten it. I also use the hot tip of the glue gun to smooth out the glue if there are lumps in it, or if the doll's limbs fit together very closely and the glue has to be very thin. You want the glue to be as flat as possible, so that you don't have unsightly gaps from the thickness of the glue in the joints. Also, if you put down too much glue, you can remove it with your fingernails if it hasn't been on too long. The more gluing you do, the easier it gets.

      I have found that sometimes glue binds very quickly and tightly to the resin, and other times it can be peeled right off. I'm not sure if this has to do with the type of resin, or if the joint is clean or dusty. Precleaning would probably help it bind better. But I don't mind so much if it can be peeled off right away, because after I restring the doll, the elastic tension will keep the joints tightly together with the glue in between.

      Hopefully all of this makes some kind of sense. If you have questions, let me know! I'm glad to help however I can, even if it is from across the ocean!!

      Best of luck and have fun,
      Linda S.
      galatia9

      PS: This tutorial is for personal use only. I wrote it and photographed it for people who have requested assistance. If you wish to post this tutorial or parts of it somewhere else, please ask me first. Thanks so much!
       
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    6. Thank you for taking the time to do this for us.
       
    7. There are a couple of my girls that I need to work on so I'll be sure to lyk how they went : )

      Lyanne
       
    8. Linda, this is exactly what I need. Thank you so much!
       
    9. You are teh awesome! Thank you so much!
       
    10. Absolutely wonderful, Linda. Must have taken a long time to get this all done and organized. Thank you!

      Jay
       
    11. lol, when I first got my doll I was playing with him and his foot popped off when I was putting a pair of pants on him (He's got a little hookey thing on his foot instead of an s hook) and I didn't know how to put his leg back together! I freaked out a little... I always seem to break things the second I get them. but with out any tools to re sting his leg I got a little creative and used a tinny crochet hook and some yarn, lol. crisis overted!

      I was always afraid of restringing him but he's too loose (Duh! his foot popped off!) but reading this you make it seem so simple! I'm not so tenitive to tighten him up now, thanks so much. I've read others but yours is easier to understand and the great pis help so much in my dyslixic mind, lol. thanks again this was totally perfect!
       
    12. I've done this with some twine I found in the basement :). When I made my first pair of pants for my boy I realized I would have to take his feet off! Well somehow the string shot up into his torso so I had to restring his leg again, simply threaded the string back through the leg and reattached the foot!
       
    13. What an excellent tutorial! I don't feel quite as intimidated about having to restring a doll now as I did before.

      Thank you for doing this! You rock!
       
    14. Excellent tutorial! Nicely photographed and beautifully explained! Thank you!
       
    15. Very nice tutorial - I also used ribbons when I restrung my doll - out of desperation, because I didn't have anything else, but I was really happy with how it worked out!
       
    16. many thanks to this tutorial~ the ribbon technique sure saved my fingers ^^
       
    17. Thanks, everyone, for all the kind comments!

      That's what I like about it too. I can't remember where I picked up the tip (must have been here at DoA!), but I prefer it!

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    18. Great tutorial ! Thank you very much ! I did a DZ mini tutorial and wanted to make DZ 70 cm tutorial too but never had enough time :(
       
    19. This really helps me feel more comfortable with the idea of restringing. I've found good tutorials already, but I like how this gives a clear idea of what to expect from my DZ Megi when he gats here! Sometime in the next few days, soon.. not soon enough, LOL! His previous owner had problem with his original stringing, then had problems with his midsection after having him loosened. The added bit about sueding is excellent, as he'll probably need it in the torso region.
      I also hope to do a body blush at some point and this seems like a good method to keep from having to get all groping on the various body parts.
      Thanks so much! I'll probably drop a note to say how it goes!
       
    20. Thanks for the tutorial! Very clear and understandable.
       
    21. :)Thank you Linda for the nice Tutorial . That is my next thing what I do . So I understand it.
       
    22. To be honest, the thought of having to restring a doll scares me half to death. D: I was so afraid that when I get my doll I would want to change out hands or something, and somehow I'd mess it up and not know how to get him back together again! @__@

      So thank you so much for putting this up! I can finally relax. XD

      OH, and one quick question for anyone who bothers to read this:

      This is how little BB-sized doll's are strung too, right? So I don't have to worry too much about them?
       
    23. I haven't examined any REALLY tiny dolls, but I believe they are all strung the same way. But instead of s-hooks, hands and feet are attached directly to the elastic with little bits of non-stretchy string. And you will need different tools to aid in stringing. I'd look around on the forum here to find special threads on stringing tinies.

      Good luck!

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    24. I will caution about using this way to restring if you are not using Hemostats. Using anything wood to hold the loops is a BAD BAD idea! I've had pencils, wooden paint brush handles snap in two and become projectiles cause of the stress the elastic puts on the wood. So invest in the hemostats or use plastic or thick dowel rods when restringing.

      Also if you don't have paper clips or a restringing tool, just lengthen the ribbon you're using enough to wrap your hand once or twice and believe me any ribbon you're using is strong enough to take that abuse. Also just using ribbon as the sole tool, double up the ribbon if you're not sure about the ribbon you're using. The only way I restring my dolls is by using ribbon and I've never had a problem.
       
    25. Using this method, the ribbon is NEVER under tension while it is being pulled by the restringing tool. The ribbon is ONLY under tension when you are pulling the ribbon with your hand.

      If for some reason I put a hard object through the elastic itself, I use something that will not break, like a rigid plastic pen barrel. I never use wood.

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    26. This is fantastic! I appreciate the amount of work that went into producing this tutorial and I give you a heartfelt THANKS!!!!:aheartbea
       
    27. absoltely brilliant tutorial! pictures are clear and easy to understand! :) Thank you!
       
    28. Thanks so much. This should be an eternal posting.
       
    29. Ug- this has been so much help. The dollzone 72cm body I bought from the marketplace is being a pain in the butt. One arm is acting really weird- it likes to curl up onto his chest and today, his other arm has started snapping around to his back...I think he's strung too loosely?- with barely a pull I can get a good few inches between the pieces.

      Do you happen to know anything about these bodies? They're similar to the one you've shown..
      Mine has an annoying loose piece though, between his chest/ribcage piece and his abdomen piece. I think it's supposed to sit nicely on top of the abdomen so the ribcage doesn't fling out to the side like it's been.... but the problem is that it's loose and likes to wedge itself down into the abdomen at an awkward angle... >.< Should this just be hot glued into place when I restring/swede him?

      Can you or anyone help? grah! it's frustrating, but I know he's got a good poser and stander in him somewhere >.<
       
    30. It sounds like his arm elastic might be twisted, which might be why his arms are being flippy. It's possible you can't pull the arms out very far because of the knot inside is catching on the elastic for his legs, or it may be pulled up against his shoulder.

      Unfortunately, I don't know anything specific about the new DZ boy 72cm bodies, so I can't give any advice about the torso. Some dolls have an abdominal insert that goes up into the chest that has to be glued in, and it sounds like that's what you have. If you find that when you take him apart, I would definitely glue him back together. Hot glue isn't permanent, so I think that's a good idea. You might try to contact other owners of this doll body too, if you can.

      Best of luck with working on your boy! I'll help if I can.

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    31. Thank you SO much! This helped immensely!
       
    32. Twisted elastic! That makes sense! I'll see when I restring him. Your tutorial helped a whole lot in figuring out the basics of how my boy works- it's pretty close, just with the insert and the "peanut" joints.
      I'm actually looking forward to restringing him. : )
      Thanks for the advice! Ugh. I'm such a new owner XD
       
    33. Wonderful tutorial with clear photos. Much appreciated.
       
    34. does anyone out there have a souldoll soulzenith boy?.the head of my doll is sooo hard to get on and off it takes a pair of pliers..the elasticis really tight in the neck but he is floppy in the body...I dont understand this..ive restrung him a couple of times but the tightness doesnt lessen to get the head on and off..its so frustraiting..I hope I dont break him
       
    35. I have two of the old original SoulDoll 60cm boys, and SoulDoll uses really heavy duty elastic to string their dolls' legs. That's all I know. But maybe you can find some other owners of the SoulZenith boys by looking in the BJD database thread?

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    36. thank you for the info galatia9 Iwill check

       
    37. I restrung him with lighter elastic and now its easier to put the head on..yay
       
    38. Oh good! SoulDoll used really thick elastic in my boys' legs, and the hooks in their feet are super heavy duty too. Glad you have him sorted out!

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    39. This was really helpful when I re-strung my doll for the first time a few days ago. Thanks!
       
    40. Oh thank heavens for these instructions. I have a little Soom MD Afi on the way and needed a clue how to attach her fantasty parts.
       
    41. I'm really nervous about restringing my Soom Amber, but this does make me feel better! I can understand how she works and I think I pretty much know what to do. The only thing is that I think she's strung too tightly. In this tutorial, you explained how to fix a loose elastic. Does anyone have any advice for fixing one that's too tight? Thanks!
       
    42. You'll have to retie the knot closer to the ends of the leg elastic. Or, if you'd rather not restring the entire doll yet, try placing the doll in a kneeling position, and safely support her on the sides with pillows or in a box. Leave her there for a few hours or overnight. This can help stretch the elastic out a bit so it can "relax".

      Good luck!

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    43. My friend and I restrung her today. It was actually really fun. xD But a lot of work. I don't think I'd want to do it a lot. We only did her legs, though. Her arms were only messed up because her leg elastic was wrapped around the arm one. Anyway, now she can stand a bit better, but still not so great. I'm not really sure what to do about that.
       
    44. Congratulations! I think that having another person there to help makes a big difference.

      I'm not familiar with the Soom dolls, but it's possible that hot glue sueding will improve her standing. There are several threads on glue sueding here that should help, plus I put a lot of tips in this tutorial, too.

      Best of luck!

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    45. Galatia, can I ask you what size hemostat you think would work best with a larger SD sized doll (65-70cm) or will any size work?

      I can't find any in any local stores and I'm looking at a 2 piece set (yay, 2!) on Amazon and they're 5.5" each. Would their end locking parts be big enough for thicker elastic? I can't really visualize it having never really seen one before in person.

      Thanks for your tutorial by the way. As soon I finally get a pair of hemostats, I'll finally be able to do it right!
       
    46. The hemostats shown in my picture are from 5-1/2 to 6-1/4 inches long (14cm and 16cm). I also have one with a curved tip. All of them work fine on any large doll, but the longer ones might be more convenient when clamping down over a wide thigh socket. I've used them on very wide strong elastic (4mm) with no trouble.

      I found them for sale at my local family-owned hardware store, believe it or not! Best of luck in your search, and with your restringing.

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    47. so is this much different for a 45 cm one? ><

      i dont need to re string him, but i need to clean him, so i want to be able to take him apart, then put him back together~
       
    48. Hello, Kurolli, I've used the exact same technique on my MSD boys (and MSDs belonging to other people), and it works fine. You'll probably need a paper clip or piece of floral wire with a tiny hook bent in one end to get the ribbon through his small limbs, though. A friend of mine also suggested using a tiny safety pin pinned through the ribbons and dropped through the limbs.

      Best of luck!!
      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    49. Linda, Very, very wonderful tutorial. Thanks for your time and for sharing.
       
    50. I've been looking for a good restringing tutorial for a while now, and this was the most clear and easily understandable one I've seen. Thank you for taking the time to post this.
       
    51. This is so helpful, thanks so much!
       
    52. Thanks so much, cate, Havra and Fairlight!! I'm glad it was helpful to you.

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    53. I was nervous about restringing my first doll (Dollzone Mo-2), but I did it tonight and now he sits and stands better than ever. I'm so pleased! I did it all with new elastic and bent paperclips, but since he's an MSD, the proportions are much smaller than a 70 cm. But this was a perfect demo; thank you so much for posting it.
       
    54. Thanks so much for letting me know!! Glad it helped. I have two MSD boys, and the bent paper clips work great for restringing them.

      I love the earlier DollZone sculpts too, somehow I have acquired six of them!!

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    55. Thank you so much for this tutorial! I'm a definite newbie, and my BBB Espree has been languishing due to absolute non-pose-ability. Hopefully this and some sueding will do the trick.

      I do have one question: What type of elastic do you prefer to use, and where do you have the best luck finding it? I've read on various forums that BBB/Resinsoul's often need thicker elastic than they come with, but no one seems to say what type of elastic they are referring to :(

      Any help would be much appreciated!

      Stephanie Y.
      MissEmily
       
    56. Hi MissEmily,

      My Bobobie Weylin arrived with very limp weak elastic, he couldn't even sit up by himself! I tightened his elastic and it helped a bit, but finally I sueded him and restrung his legs with 3.5mm elastic that I bought from coolcat-coolcat on ebay. I've also used SoulDoll elastic and Volks elastic on other dolls. All of these elastics have nice spring-back qualities. My Weylin stands like a little soldier now, though I don't think he likes it!!

      I also put small s-hooks in his hands to increase his wrist posability. coolcat-coolcat has those too, though the ones I used came from an Iplehouse YID girl that I no longer had. (I had replaced her hooks with others that were a little bit stronger.)

      Good luck!
      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    57. Oh and if you don't want to pay shipping, I get my doll elastic from JoAnn Fabrics, a sewing supply store. Or you could check your local hobby shop (HobbyLobby, Michaels, etc..) and if they don't have it, they can probably order it for you. Sometimes you can find tiny s-hooks at hardware stores too, instead of ordering online. Though sometimes BBB and RS send their dolls strung with hooks. My Sprite was strung with hooks when he arrived.
       
    58. Thanks for the tutorial! I've looking for step-by-step tutorials like this on how to restring the doll for quite some time.... and I just love how you show the steps clearly in pictures^^
       
    59. KarieChaos, thanks for the tips. I've found that my Jo-Ann's doesn't have the large round elastic, only smaller sizes. I haven't tried to purchase from them online, though. And I did get some s-hooks at my local hardware store, but they didn't go as small or as thin as I needed.

      Thanks, PinkyDolphen, you're very welcome!

      Linda S.
      galatia9
       
    60. Yeah, if they don't carry it, you can ask them and they'll order it. I use 3mm in my guys and I found it there, and they said if they don't have it, they can always order things for you. Which is handy. Its the only sewing store I have, besides HobbyLobby. XD
       
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