Can human makeup be used safely for face-ups?

I believe that you can used any powder makeup on your doll. I'm not so sure about oil-based liners or pencils, though.

 

I tried using blush and eyeshadow on my doll before giving her a real face-up with Volks Pastels, and it didn't stick very well. You could barely see the blush. I prefer using the crushed chalk pastels.

 

I was wondering if anyone knew if it was possible to use big-people makeup on the dolls? I'd like for my boys to cosplay, but they'd need a bit of additional makeup, and I really don't want to touch their faceups. (Yes, I am a sissy. And I quite like the way they look.)

Does anyone know if it's safe for their resin, or how hard it is to get off of them? I was thinking of testing a little patch of lightly-coloured makeup on an arm or their backs or something to see how it worked out.

 

I think that as long as it isn't oil-based, it should be okay.
... or maybe you could try wax pencils, like Faber-Castelle?

 

Ooh. That could work. I just don't want anything permanent and something that I can take off without hurting my boys.
Tatsurou would need some heavy eyeliner-work for what I want to do to him...

 

Try crushing pastels or using a mid-grade sandpaper to create a dust then use the powder like people make-up ^_^

 

I used my eyeshadow and blush on my dolls faceups, and if you don't seal it it will wipe off easily.

 

I've used eyeshadow before, and it worked rather nicely. Also, certain colored pencils are terrific. They come right off very easily!

 

Eyeshadow and blush is ok. If it is a really intense color it might need several rewashings lol just be careful, it should be ok, especially if they are coated

 

On their website eLUTS mentioned that no human makeup should be used on the dolls & since most BJDs are made out of similiar resins, it should carry over to other dolls as well.

But I have seen some gorgeous face-ups using rouge! I imagine if you just stay away from oil-based products as everyone suggested you could probably be ok.

I personally don't want to risk it yet because BJDs are too new & the long-term effects aren't really known yet, I just don't want to take a chance!

 

Has anyone ever done this..? It occured to me today that it would be kinda cool to have a faceup done completely with people's makeup

 

Mascara has a lot of oil in it, it woudl stain badly. ^^;

(but yeah, if there were somehow an oil-free mascara, that would be cool. ^^ )

 

Hi You guys,

I was wondering can you use real make up on the dolls?

Like lip gloss for the dolls lips?

Or should I use special painting gloss??

What's the best gloss to use?

And what about pastels?

^^ I wanna practice more on painting..with different materials

are there any tricks i have to keep in mind?

Thanxsssssss

 

I think if you coat your doll really good first and use makeup that isn't oil based then it should be ok. I've never tried it myself so I can't really say, but makeup that has oil in it will stain.

 

I definitely wouldn't use lip gloss. An acrylic gloss varnish is perfect - or even clear nail varnish (though this may yellow over time).

Artists' chalk pastels (NOT oil pastels) works great (crush it and apply with small sponges or a q-tip), or you can use real-person makeup if it hasn't got oils in it.

Tips: I would advise getting a really small brush for painting. Practise getting the right consistency of paint - it helps if you can get an semi-transparent colour and a solid one, to make the details more realistic. Adding water or a separate acrylic medium can help with this. When painting, don't have too much paint on your brush, and have a q-tip handy to quickly wipe off any mistakes.

This thread has most of the information you should need, I think.

 

Has anyone ever used MAC shadows in their faceups? I have upwards of 50 colors, and it's such a great quality and of such great color, that I thought it would look exquisite on a doll. As long as it's sealed with MSC, should there be a problem with it?

Thank you for your help in advance, and apologies if anything like this has been posted before. *curtsey*

 

I often use eyeshadow for blushing and colouring my faceups, not the MAC brand specifically, but several others. Same rules still apply, though, use MSC (or similar) first to give the blushing some grip and protect the resin from any oily substances that might have been used to make the makeup. :wink:

 

I'm not sure if it's the same with m.a.c (you might look on the ingredients label, if there is one), but a lot of people makeup has vitamins and oils in them that can decompose or spoil, which may lead to discoloration, stain your doll, or even damage the resin after time (probably less likely if you use MSC underneath, though)
So, I'd say it's a possibility, but it's better to be safe than sorry, so I'd wait until someone can either verify the effects of m.a.c on resin dolls, or just someone who's used it on their BJDs ;0
(by the way, the spoiling/decomposing is usually a long term thing, so if you're planning on changeing the faceup later on, you might be better off, but it's still best to make sure there wont be any negative reactions to the resin [and/or the MSC!])

 

Its safest to use the loose, oil-free powders if you want to use human makeup on a doll u.u Because of the effects of the oils that TOMATO mentioned.

 

Ahhh, I see. Thank you very much for the info. MAC is some pretty high quality stuff, so I'm betting there are oils in the shadows. I'll have to see if I have any old boxes lying aroung with the ingredients listed. Thanks again!

 

hi Violaine, i was thinking to do the same, using M.A.C and Dior eye shadows on my SD.
I will chek if Dior have oil supstant, i dont have M.A.C boxes so plz report here if thy do have oil
thanx

 

I know that Annie-chan the Warui one uses MAC eyeshadow on her Kuja, and he looks absolutely amazing... I don't know about the long term effects at all or the ingredients used in MAC, so I wouldn't use them if you're only ever going to give your doll the one face up...

I do know that Napoleon brand cosmetics (cheek blush) have mineral oil in them, so that only goes on my face, and not Rémy's

 

MAC eyeshadow ingredients:

Talc, Zinc Stearate, Octyldodecyl Stearoyl Stearate, Isostearyl Neopentanoate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Propylparaben, Methylparaben;

May contain: Silica, Iron Oxides, Titanium Dioxide, Mica, Ultramarines, Carmine, Ferric Ferrocyanide, Bismuth Oxychloride, FD&C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Yellow No. 5 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Red No. 40 Aluminum Lake as well as other colors more specific to the color of the shadow.

See anything in there that might be harmful?

 

I seem to recall from my organic chem days that stearates are fats. So Octyldodecyl Stearoyl Stearate, Zinc Stearate are probably fats. I think paraben (Methylparaben) is a wax , so a fat derivative. So may not be the best to put on resin. But it may depend on how much is in the product,if it is a small percentage it may not stain. You could try some on the inside of your dolls head cap and see. Thats probably what I would try.

 

I'd -guess- that the quantities of fatty-acid in them are so minute that it wouldn't be a big deal. I've used eyeshadow on my boys and haven't had a problem wth it staining as of yet.

 

I tried it last night.... three or four times, actually... and I could never really get it to stick too well. Even after sanding. Went back to chalk pastels, and all was fine. I'm guessing that what little oil there is in the shadow causes problems with adhering to the resin.

 

Methyl & Propyl Paraben are preservatives, which are made from processed vegetable-origin oil. Palm oil? I forget. Not sure if that is the main ingredient, but I know from my cosmetics training that they are oil-derived.

Could be oily, then.

Are the pure mica-based MAC pigments safer? I have some of those...

 

ok , i tried some on my SD head cap part that inst coated, i used several eye shadow brands here is the result:
Dont use : Dior, Chenell, SLA, Shu Uemura, Givinchy. i think thy have more oil on them thy did mark the rasin even aftr i crazly rubed the head cap with Aceton and rens with water.

OK to use: NARS, Make up for Ever, Nouba and MAC, thy didnt mark aftr i remove the color, they did stick ok. but i dont know how thy would react to MSC or any coating coz i dont have any, sorry i couldnt make any further investegating ^.^

ps: i used eye make up smudg by taping on rasin didnt use brush

 

I've used MAC powder blush and it's awesome. No staining problem at all with or without using MSC--I've done it both ways.

Jay

 

What about actual makeup for doing the blushing? I don't know a heck of a lot when it comes to makeup or what it's composed of. But would any of that stuff work with these dolls? v.s. using art related items.

 

Thanks for this thread. I'm a Makeup Artist and wanted to play with my doll's faceup in this way. I also love MAC, so I will be checking out whether that has oil in it. Some of their products do.

Silica is used in a ton of makeup. It makes it stick to the skin....MAC eye paints have it....most creamy makeups do.

 

What happens if I put human make up in a faced up SD? Does it damage the doll or the doll's face up? And what if it's put in an unpainted one?
Thanx!!

 

If the makeup is oil-free then it is okay. Oil damages resin. Just remember that you should coat the surface at least two times to prevent staining.

 

*nods* I often use oil-free eyeshadow for colours difficult to achieve with chalk. It often goes on better than chalks (IMHO.) I've never had any problems with staining. (this is after coating the head well with MSC)

I'd imagine if your doll had a factory faceup, as long as it was well coated you could add eyeshadow or chalk for a temporary look, and remove with water and a Mr. Clean sponge. I've done that with watercolour pencils on Kika and it came off really clean.

 

Thank you! So no lipstick, I suppose :S

 

Olla I know we always talk a lot about tanning our dolls..but i was wondering has anyone ever used thee or henna on there doll?

I know thee probally won't work but what about henna....henna's pretty hard to get off..right..

I was planning on testing it on some plastic but..resin in much different right?

I wanna try testing it on resin but i was wondering iff anyone has done this trick already!

 

I don't have the first clue about what thee is. ^^; There was another thread about henna a few weeks ago, but I don't know if the original poster went through with it or not.

Anyway, the reason henna is so difficult to remove from skin is because it actually bonds with a particular type of cell in the outer layers. The fading process occurs in conjunction with the natural cycle of those cells being shed and replaced. This is also why the colour and staying power can differ from person to person, or even different areas on the same body. As far as I know, there's really no way of knowing how it would react with resin until someone tries it - it might just stain the surface in the same way that other substances would, but on the chance some sort of chemical reaction did occur, it might well not come off without sanding, because it would essentially become a part of the resin.

 

"Thee" is probably meant to be tea! :wink:

Re: henna - henna sticks to basically everything in my experience. Hair, skin, textiles, bathroom walls... Preferably where you do not want it. Two things to think about if you'd like to apply it to your BJD, though:
1. It tends to turn a garish orange on light materials,
2. How to apply it evenly?

I would never dare to use the stuff on a resin darling, but... Good luck!

 

YAH I meant tea...>_< i tend to mix dutch and english..

But I also don't have the guts to use henna!!

^^ I was just wondering iff there was some1 with the balls to try out..
I also don't have the guts to airbrush (iff i ever get the hang of it!)..

hehehe

 

wouldn't it be just as easy to mix red and brown paint and paint it?

 

Somebody suggested testing makeup on the inside of the headcap to see if it stained or not. Maybe you could try this with a little henna.

 

if I had some henna handy I'd test it on a headcap, but unfortunatly I don't. Anyone willing to test this? I'd like to know how it works too.

 

Um, how would that ever DRY, barring the oil issue? ^^;

 

Instead of making a new post I thought i'd revive this thread, has anyone actually tried testing henna inside the headcap?

I have been commissioned to tattoo someone's doll with henna, however I think it might be more practical (and safer) to use brown paint. Thoughts?

 

I have henna done on my hands regularly
I tried putting henna on one of my spare broken hand for testing,so I can dress her in a traditional dress. It does NOT go well on it , it looked a bit blurred and actually had some places where the dye was stronger(on sanded parts) and in some area's it didnt dye at all .I really do not recommend this method, I would suggest watercolor pencils for detailed arabic style henna or acrylic paints for the elegant indian style henna

 

You could try using a brown/red ultrafine point Sharpie, but then it would be permanent. I would just use paint or Prismacolor Verithins.

The other thing about henna is, do you have a sensitivity to it? I know one of my sisters does, because when we got henna done at Milwaukee Arab World Fest, her hand was stinging for a while afterwards. It's a very good thing to find out ahead of time.

 

I don't know about other companies, but DoD sells spare hands for $ 18. I will be getting a pair and could test on that, but it's impossible to get henna in norway... the worst dangers is that it won't bind to the resin and that it will turn out looking orange (ever seen the color you get when you dye hair with henna?)

 

Hey, not everyone is blond like you, feather! The colour henna produces depends partly on what shade it is used to colour, partly wich type of henna it is - which part of the world it was grown in, which part of the plant it is made of.

Pale bases like blond hair, white textiles or pale skin are prone to a very orange henna shade. Henna grown in Northen Africa and henna made from older leaves and stems tend to give an orange henna shade.
Which means that colouring blond hair with Egyptian henna is not advicable unless you are aiming for a very carroty hue...

Why is henna unobtainable in Norway? Is it that foolish cancer scare we had some two years back?

 

I do my faceups with real cosmetics, and I dug out a product I actually recieved free from a company I used to work for, called "She-Laq." It is made by Benefit cosmetics, and its a makeup sealant. Like, I used to use it on my mascara to make it waterproof, and in my eyebrows to keep the hairs in check. I also used to use it with loose eyeshadow to make it like PAINT.

I tried it out with my eyeshadows that I use on my resin BJD, AND IT ROCKS!!!! It doesn't BUDGE!

I wouldn't use it in blushing, I'd go with the oldschool spray on sealants, but for linework, like in lips or around eyes, brows, or I guess in tattoos, it makes powder products FREEZE. (I guess, the same as it does my makeup on MY face...) I was able to remove it normally with the brush cleaner I usually use to erase mistakes.

It is a tad expensive... a bottle retails for $24 at your local counter or on sephora.com or benefit.com. But the idea is that you are sealing your lines from within, and not spraying a gazillion layers of a topical sealant, and buying tons of cans of that. This is NON TOXIC as well. And the bottle seriously lasts FOREVER.

I dip my brush in the She-Laq, then in my pigment, and go. Its great, I thought I'd pass along the info.

If you don't have a Benefit counter near you, or dont want to pay the flat shipping charges, I'd be more than happy to run to the store and hook it up, and mail everything for actual cost.

Check it:

 

u.u please check your ingredients list for any and I mean ANY oils that the product may contain.

Oil breaks down resin over time, and is strongly warned agaisnt.
This includes most human cosmetics, markers, sharpies, oil pastels etc. etc.

 

Eh, it's a pretty watery liquid.

*Checks*

Water, SD Alcohol 40-B, Acrylates/Octylacylamide Copolymer, Triethanolamine, Propylene Glycol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Imidazolidinyl Urea.

Alot of this stuff is in my Latour Fixatif.

Of course I wouldn't put like, LIPSTICK on my doll, but i'm pretty comfortable with this stuff, and the matte eyeshadows and blushes I use normally. I'm no chemist, but I've been in the makeup artistry/cosmetics industry for a while, and I'm pretty comfortable with my products.

She-Laq might be nice for anyone else that uses cosmetics on their dolls, but is a nice idea too though for anyone who draws lines with any pigment, pressed or loose.

 

I used human lip gloss (from Stilla) to color my DES's lips a darker color. I like the way it looks (I sealed it with Mr. Super Clear), but am concerned about the effect of Human Make up on resin. Does anyone know if it is O'K? For example, I know that nail polish is a no no because it erodes the resin gradually over time. Does anyone know if human lip gloss will have the same effect? Thanks so much!

 

human lipgloss is pretty greasy, I wouldn't use it and I doubt sealing it would help much

 

I would worry about it a) staining because it sounds like it's coloured, and there is a lot of oily products in human makeup. Never use anything oil-based on resin!
b) I would also worry about it eroding the makeup under the gloss, and the sealer.

Try some thinned acrylic paint for colour, covered with a couple coats of Windsor & Newtons high gloss acrylic. Works really good. ^^

 

Cool, I have tons of Makeup Forever shadows and blushes.

Has anyone ever tried Urban Decay? It does feel "oiler" than Makeup Forever but I don't have an ingrediants list.

 

I've been using Stila & Dior eyeshadows, and they work fine

 

I have loads of MAC make up as well so resurrecting this old thread was a nice surprise.

 

I've used Mary Kay on Ghaleon. It stuck without MSC which was a nice suprise.